[protege-owl] DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

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[protege-owl] DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

Marisa Santos Amaro
Hi, all.

I´m building a DataCenter ontology with specialists from my IT team.
My goal is  use the discussions about the concepts involved in this
domain  as a knowledge management initiative, enabling the team for
adopting an IT governance model, based on ITIL.
Does anyone here have a similar experience with it or have any
suggestion about this theme that could help me ?

Thanks.
Marisa.
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[protege-owl] Protege and Jess tab

vsingh
Hi all

hi...i am using the Jess rules and using Jess Tab with protege....

heres the rule...

(defrule recommend-ipod-nano
(object (is-a Customer)
(customer-id ?id))
(not (and (object (is-a SalesOrder)(OrderNumber ?order)(customer-id ?id))))
(object (is-a LineItem)(OrderNumber ?order)(partnumber ?part))
(object (is-a Product)(partnumber ?part)(name “ipod nano”))
=>
(printout t “The Customer” ?id “should be recommended to purchase the  
product” ?part "whos ordernumber is" ?order crlf))

As you can see I have used (object(is-a *) becuase I ahve used the  
mapped class from Proetege KB.

the rule gets defined and says TRUE....but when I (run)....it shows no  
effect.....whats the reason......also I ahve uploaded instances as  
facts..for products..etc......pls adivse ASAP.....


Thanks

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[protege-owl] Re: Protege and Jess tab

samsontu

The rule looks OK. Did you have instances in your KB? Did you do
"mapclass"?

Samson

[hidden email] wrote:

> Hi all
>
> hi...i am using the Jess rules and using Jess Tab with protege....
>
> heres the rule...
>
> (defrule recommend-ipod-nano
> (object (is-a Customer)
> (customer-id ?id))
> (not (and (object (is-a SalesOrder)(OrderNumber ?order)(customer-id ?id))))
> (object (is-a LineItem)(OrderNumber ?order)(partnumber ?part))
> (object (is-a Product)(partnumber ?part)(name “ipod nano”))
> =>
> (printout t “The Customer” ?id “should be recommended to purchase the
> product” ?part "whos ordernumber is" ?order crlf))
>
> As you can see I have used (object(is-a *) becuase I ahve used the
> mapped class from Proetege KB.
>
> the rule gets defined and says TRUE....but when I (run)....it shows no
> effect.....whats the reason......also I ahve uploaded instances as
> facts..for products..etc......pls adivse ASAP.....
>
>
> Thanks
>
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[protege-owl] Re: Protege and Jess tab

vsingh
thanks a lot for the reply..looks like some problem with the logic...i  
made changes with the rule and it works now.....



Quoting Samson Tu <[hidden email]>:

>
> The rule looks OK. Did you have instances in your KB? Did you do "mapclass"?
>
> Samson
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> hi...i am using the Jess rules and using Jess Tab with protege....
>>
>> heres the rule...
>>
>> (defrule recommend-ipod-nano
>> (object (is-a Customer)
>> (customer-id ?id))
>> (not (and (object (is-a SalesOrder)(OrderNumber ?order)(customer-id ?id))))
>> (object (is-a LineItem)(OrderNumber ?order)(partnumber ?part))
>> (object (is-a Product)(partnumber ?part)(name "ipod nano"))
>> =>
>> (printout t "The Customer" ?id "should be recommended to purchase  
>> the product" ?part "whos ordernumber is" ?order crlf))
>>
>> As you can see I have used (object(is-a *) becuase I ahve used the  
>> mapped class from Proetege KB.
>>
>> the rule gets defined and says TRUE....but when I (run)....it shows  
>>  no effect.....whats the reason......also I ahve uploaded instances  
>>  as facts..for products..etc......pls adivse ASAP.....
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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>> To unsubscribe go to http://protege.stanford.edu/community/subscribe.html
>>
>>
>
>
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> Senior Research Scientist    web: www.stanford.edu/~swt/
> Stanford Medical Informatics phone: 1-650-725-3391
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[protege-owl] Re: DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

PeterAnsell
In reply to this post by Marisa Santos Amaro
On 18/08/06, Marisa Santos Amaro <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> I´m building a DataCenter ontology with specialists from my IT team.
> My goal is  use the discussions about the concepts involved in this
> domain  as a knowledge management initiative, enabling the team for
> adopting an IT governance model, based on ITIL.
> Does anyone here have a similar experience with it or have any
> suggestion about this theme that could help me ?
>
> Thanks.
> Marisa.

I am not sure if my experience in Workflow/Process Management will
help. There are some informative articles at the Workflow Patterns
website. The Data patterns may be of interest to you.

http://is.tm.tue.nl/research/patterns/

Cheers,

Peter
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[protege-owl] Re: DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

Massimo Coletti
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Marisa Santos Amaro ha scritto:
>
> Does anyone here have a similar experience with it or have any
> suggestion about this theme that could help me ?
Hi Marisa,

I am working on a project aimed at building an ontology for Information
System Security. The project currently has three "legs":

- a comprehensive ontological model of Information Security Management
integrating different perspectives (physical, normative, methodology,
etc.), you can find details here:
http://www.mcoletti.net/dev/iskb/iskb_study.html. At the present time,
some concepts from COBIT are included. Please, be aware that we are
refactoring the whole ontology: the results will be online perhaps in
two weeks time.

- an ontology of operational risk (some stuff will be public soon)

- an ontology of "normative concepts": this will highlight the concepts
relevant in the norm to which we must comply. The link from concepts to
norm part, as well as the concepts ontology, are imported in a software
application that we are using to support the compliance function.

I will be happy to exchange more ideas on this argument.

Regards,

Massimo


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[protege-owl] Re: DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

Marisa Santos Amaro
In reply to this post by PeterAnsell
Thanks a lot, Peter.
I´ll check the URL you give me.

Cheers,
Marisa.

On 8/17/06, Peter Ansell <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 18/08/06, Marisa Santos Amaro <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > I´m building a DataCenter ontology with specialists from my IT team.
> > My goal is  use the discussions about the concepts involved in this
> > domain  as a knowledge management initiative, enabling the team for
> > adopting an IT governance model, based on ITIL.
> > Does anyone here have a similar experience with it or have any
> > suggestion about this theme that could help me ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Marisa.
>
> I am not sure if my experience in Workflow/Process Management will
> help. There are some informative articles at the Workflow Patterns
> website. The Data patterns may be of interest to you.
>
> http://is.tm.tue.nl/research/patterns/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
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[protege-owl] Re: DataCenter ontology and ITIL.

Marisa Santos Amaro
In reply to this post by Massimo Coletti
Dear Massimo:
I´m thankfull for your help and I´ll check the URL you wrote me down.

Cheers,
Marisa.

On 8/18/06, Massimo Coletti <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Marisa Santos Amaro ha scritto:
> >
> > Does anyone here have a similar experience with it or have any
> > suggestion about this theme that could help me ?
> Hi Marisa,
>
> I am working on a project aimed at building an ontology for Information
> System Security. The project currently has three "legs":
>
> - a comprehensive ontological model of Information Security Management
> integrating different perspectives (physical, normative, methodology,
> etc.), you can find details here:
> http://www.mcoletti.net/dev/iskb/iskb_study.html. At the present time,
> some concepts from COBIT are included. Please, be aware that we are
> refactoring the whole ontology: the results will be online perhaps in
> two weeks time.
>
> - an ontology of operational risk (some stuff will be public soon)
>
> - an ontology of "normative concepts": this will highlight the concepts
> relevant in the norm to which we must comply. The link from concepts to
> norm part, as well as the concepts ontology, are imported in a software
> application that we are using to support the compliance function.
>
> I will be happy to exchange more ideas on this argument.
>
> Regards,
>
> Massimo
>
>
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