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Marcelino Borges
Hi.

I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.

I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.

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Re: sameAs annotation

Matthew Horridge-2
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Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
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Re: sameAs annotation

Marcelino Borges
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
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> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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Re: sameAs annotation

Csongor Nyulas
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https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def

On 05/12/2017 10:19 AM, Marcelino Borges wrote:
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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Re: sameAs annotation

Matthew Horridge-2
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If you state that two individuals are the same then they will be interpreted as the same object.

Again, where can you see this “annotation” in the UI?  

Cheers,

Matthew



On 12 May 2017, at 10:32, Csongor Nyulas <[hidden email]> wrote:

https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def

On 05/12/2017 10:19 AM, Marcelino Borges wrote:
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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Re: sameAs annotation

samsontu
I have seen it in some ontologies. For example, the following is a screen dump from an ontology I got from a VA-funded project:


On May 12, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

If you state that two individuals are the same then they will be interpreted as the same object.

Again, where can you see this “annotation” in the UI?  

Cheers,

Matthew



On 12 May 2017, at 10:32, Csongor Nyulas <[hidden email]> wrote:

https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def

On 05/12/2017 10:19 AM, Marcelino Borges wrote:
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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Re: sameAs annotation

Matthew Horridge-2
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In this case it’s likely that owl:sameAs is being used incorrectly, or the generated ontology file isn’t well formed.

Cheers,

Matthew

On 12 May 2017, at 10:45, Samson Tu <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have seen it in some ontologies. For example, the following is a screen dump from an ontology I got from a VA-funded project:

<PastedGraphic-1.png>
On May 12, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

If you state that two individuals are the same then they will be interpreted as the same object.

Again, where can you see this “annotation” in the UI?  

Cheers,

Matthew



On 12 May 2017, at 10:32, Csongor Nyulas <[hidden email]> wrote:

https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def

On 05/12/2017 10:19 AM, Marcelino Borges wrote:
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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Re: sameAs annotation

Biswanath Dutta


Yes, OWL specification document does not list owl:sameAs as a utility property, it is surely an inappropriate use, 

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]> wrote:
In this case it’s likely that owl:sameAs is being used incorrectly, or the generated ontology file isn’t well formed.

Cheers,

Matthew

On 12 May 2017, at 10:45, Samson Tu <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have seen it in some ontologies. For example, the following is a screen dump from an ontology I got from a VA-funded project:

<PastedGraphic-1.png>

On May 12, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]> wrote:

If you state that two individuals are the same then they will be interpreted as the same object.

Again, where can you see this “annotation” in the UI?  

Cheers,

Matthew



On 12 May 2017, at 10:32, Csongor Nyulas <[hidden email]> wrote:

https://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#sameAs-def

On 05/12/2017 10:19 AM, Marcelino Borges wrote:
So, is there any semantics in this predicate?

2017-05-12 13:46 GMT-03:00 Matthew Horridge <[hidden email]>:
Where can you see this annotation?

SameAs is built into the OWL language - it’s not an annotation.

Cheers,

Matthew


> On 12 May 2017, at 09:33, Marcelino Borges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have realized that Protege provides an annotation "sameAs", which is in the local namespace and, due to this, is different from owl:sameAs.
>
> I would like to know what is the purpose of this annotation.
>
> Best regards.
> _______________________________________________
> protege-user mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/protege-user

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